There is a huge difference between achieving greatness and being great — Ben Wilson is showing true greatness not by conquering anything, but by how he faces terminal cancer with dignity, integrity, and bravery.

42:28have that cuz life goes pretty well without it for me, right? Like without having to to have faith in in certain things. Um so, I thought that was that that really stood out. The second was I think you nailed it. The difference, you know, his pod- podcast is about Napoleon and Caesar and these complicated men who achieve, who conquered. I think, you know, it's how to take over the world. It's about

42:48conquerors. It's about the the world shapers. And there's a big difference between achieving greatness and being great. What Ben is doing right now is greatness, but it's being great, not achieving something. And I think there's a huge difference and I think for myself and most people that we don't really split those out. And it it's very easy to set goals and, you know, I remember being young and

43:11being like, I want to be Forbes 30 under 30. This was before it became like, you know, the FBI watchlist. But I remember thinking like, that would be a great achievement. I want to have a million dollars in my bank account. I want to have this. I want to have that. When I was like 19, 20 years old. And it's like it was all about achieving. And the two people

43:27we've talked about, Ramon and Ben, they're great examples of being great. Living day-to-day in a great way. He's really showing his greatness uh you know, in in the hardest time, which is when when it when it when it matters, when it counts, when it's real. And then yeah, like, you know, I just hope that there's something, you know, in the maybe the age of AI, maybe there's some