Infection prevention standards written into building codes would embed Far-UVC into buildings on normal 10-year renovation cycles, requiring far fewer individual decisions than vaccines or masking.

37:57numbers is a relatively small impairment uh in a co 19 or something uh to just get it from uh slightly above one to slightly below one is the difference between having a pandemic and not uh and uh knock and wood hopefully we will be able to avoid uh some pandemics at the margin. >> No I definitely think that's a huge benefit. I also think because it's part

38:17of the built environment, you [clears throat] need a lot fewer people to be involved in the prevention process, right? Uh this is like one of the big problems with COVID is vaccination requires a lot of people to opt into vaccination. Masking requires a lot of people to opt into masking. If you have, you know, whoever owns a building can decide unilaterally. Sometimes it's just one person. Sometimes it's, you know, a

38:39board of directors or something, but that that takes way fewer people to reduce the infections in an area than uh previous like prevention methods, right? >> Yeah. And if this um if a certain amount of infection prevention gets written into building codes and then these are broadly adopted in like whatever the authority having jurisdiction is that might be on the state level or on the county level.

39:02This means that you know the these interventions just get built into buildings on a 10-year renovation renovation cycle. So I think there is some potential here in going through building codes uh because and right now we only have one infection prevention standard that's ashray 241 and it is an amazing standard that was put together very quickly uh but it's still under construction and it's not yet broadly

39:29adopted by any authorities having jurisdiction that could you know if the standard says you need this much infection prevention in your building to be compliant and VC is the cheapest easiest way to do that. I mean people are going to do that and I I do think that one really really major advantage maybe the advantage of for UVC and UBC generally is just it is such a

39:56cost-effective way to get the required amount of infection prevention into an air treatment space. the um sort of competing technologies there not they're not quite competing uh presumably this is a something that you could deploy in parallel but uh your other options might include a huge upgrade to the HVAC system to cause more changes in um the actual physical air in the room per hour which requires

40:23upgrading both like the central HVAC and also presumably all the vents etc etc and might uh you know be either impossible or extremely cost ineffective for buildings that already physically exist where this is again just plop the light in the corner and then you're done. I mean the another comparison technology might be portable air filters actually not necessarily HEPA but um you know a lower rating can actually be just as

40:52effective uh and much quieter. So just a MV 13 portable portable air filter and I do think these things are additive. I mean, yes, we should be absolutely upgrading ventilation. We should be getting more outdoor air, more um cycled filtered air. We should be using, you know, we call them portable filters, but you can also install them kind of in the room. You know, we can we can broadly