Focus on what you want to do, not what you want to be—the pressure to define yourself by a role is harmful, and fulfillment comes from following what you enjoy doing moment to moment.
Kaplan advises young people to stop obsessing over what career identity they 'want to be' and instead pay attention to what activities actually bring them fulfillment when no one is watching, drawing on his own painful journey from failed writer to game designer. ✦ AI generated
Jeff Kaplan · Lex Fridman · 2026-03-11 · original ↗
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Focus on what you wanna do, not what you wanna be. The pressure that society kind of puts on us is, you know, 'Oh, do you wanna be an astronaut? Do you wanna be a firefighter? Do you wanna be a writer? Do you wanna be a game maker?' And I think we get lost in the trappings of, like a vision of what that role is... When you go home, how do you spend your time? Like, what makes you happy? What brings you fulfillment? And through those paths, you're gonna find out what you're gonna become, not what you wanna be.
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32:51focus on what you wanna do, not what you wanna be. The, the pressure that society kind of puts on us is, you know, "Oh, do you wanna be an astronaut? Do you wanna be a firefighter? Do you wanna be a writer? Do you wanna be a game maker?" And I think we get lost in the trappings of, like a vision of what that role is- ... and how to perform as a fake actor in that
33:22role. Versus when you're off the clock and no one's asking you any questions- ... you know, you're not at Thanksgiving dinner and your uncle's pressuring you into, you know, what your future's gonna be for the rest of your life. When you go home, how do you spend your time? Like, what makes you happy? What brings you fulfillment? And through those paths, you're gonna find out what you're gonna become, not what you wanna be. It's, "What do you wanna do?"
33:55- What do you wanna do? The thing that brings you joy on a moment by moment basis. Yeah. That's brilliantly put. And speaking of which, that's where you took the pivot. You switched to video games. How did that happen? Gradually? Suddenly? - Gradually and suddenly. So when I had that fateful moment where I just sort of gave up with writing, I had these days where I'd structure eight-hour chunks
34:25of just, this was writing time, you know? I'd sit solitary typing. All that was gone. And, you know, I could still support myself, which was nice. And then I had this free time and I wasn't spending it with anybody, I was just alone. Me and the dog, Jack. And I just poured it all into EverQuest. You know, I, it was 1999 when that game came out. And I had a friend,