Enterprises are more nervous about US frontier model providers than Chinese models because of uncertainty around data policies, where prompts are stored, and the inability to run models on their own infrastructure.

34:17models? >> I think they're they're more nervous about frontier models usually. Part because there's just like a a much there's much more confusion around the data policy about what's like actually happening to the prompts they're sending and um where they're being stored and how they're being looked at. Um and you can't run them on your own machine or in a provider of your choice. Uh and so that just immediately creates

34:46all of this uncertainty in a lot of enterprises. And [snorts] it's uncertainty that they can also pattern match. It's very similar to like you know, running on their own infra versus running in their VPC. Um and and knowing like who can see the data. Um so like >> exactly? Like they're more nervous of like US companies headquartered in Silicon Valley where you can see and touch and

35:13feel the headquarters and the leaders. It's just like what a strange world to be in. >> Yeah, it it is very strange especially with these with the frontier models like doing the like having the biggest cyber posture right now. Like the the Um they're doing the best at cyber. >> company kind of posturing haha we hacked someone? First you had OpenAI, then you had Anthropic, and then you had Zuck