Banning Chinese open-weight models is naive and self-serving when the party advocating the ban sells the expensive alternative.

6:22was very kind of overexaggerated. And then secondly, you know, when you start even hinting about I mean we saw this when Sarah fire did it. When you start hinting about significant regulatory hinting at regular changes that will massively benefit you, you got to expect that everyone's going to say, "Dude, of course you're going to say that. You're you know, that's your side." And if you start, if you make the expensive

6:46closed source product that sells for, you know, 10, 20 bucks and the Chinese are shipping something for two bucks and you say, "Well, totally independently, just speaking as a common citizen, I think they should ban this shit." You got to expect that a whole bunch of people are going to say, "Dude, you're not talking as a common citizen. You're talking as the provider of the company who will jack up our rates the minute

7:07the stuff gets banned." So, you know, it was it was a little naive not to expect that level of blowback. >> Well, we we'll see at some level. First of all, I think that guy at opening had been there like two weeks, right? Two weeks. >> Whether this was whether he used that as a reason to go on this or >> as they say in the meme, Jason, two

7:26weeks so far. >> Yeah. So far, >> um, listen, I I can't I'm not a total expert. difficult for me to imagine the federal government's ever going to use a uh a China built model at this point in the US, right? It's difficult and and and anything adjacent to that, it's difficult to imagine. Uh just just simply I mean there's always in our whole history at tech the ability of