Scott argues that Zig creator Andrew Kelly's response to the Bun rewrite, despite containing valid criticisms, is overshadowed by personal attacks and a condescending tone that made readers focus on the drama rather than the substance. ✦ AI generated
Scott Tolinski · Syntax · 2026-07-13 · original ↗
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This blog post is the prime example of letting your emotions ruin every good point you could possibly have because the conversation around this blog post was not about the important things. The conversation around this blog post was around the personal attacks and nature of this post.
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17:24of letting your emotions ruin every good point you could possibly have because the conversation around this blog post was not about the important things. The conversation around this blog post was around the personal attacks and nature of this post. For instance, even the very first sentence, when Jared joined the Zig community about 5 years ago, I described him as someone who had strong beginner energy. Like I it's just it's
17:56so cringy in like a pompous way that like it makes me immediately unsympathetic towards Zigg and it makes me want to stay away from this community regardless of the good points in this thing because this blog post Yeah. is is written in such a pompous a-hole way that like I cannot I cannot read this and be like, "Okay, come on." Like I just rolling my eyes repeatedly uh when
18:30reading this thing. Uh but CJ, you have a lot of support for this. You think Andrew uh did the right thing here, right? >> I think like you said, there's good points in here. I I completely agree that it's the you can't actually get to the good points when there's personal attacks and like that's the headline. Um but I mentioned earlier that Z that bun was like the biggest Zig codebase and in
18:56that blog post there's a section talking about basically everything that Andrew thought was wrong with with the the bun codebase. Um I think I don't know if we've talked about it as well, but there have been um one of the other issues was Zigg has released um uh news or like the basically how their project would be governed that they're no longer going to be accepting uh AI
19:22PRs. >> So Zigg is >> Yeah, that's reasonable. >> It's reasonable. Yeah. I mean, they just talk like they they want less slop um and they want a human to be attached to PRs and and suggestions to to the Zig language. So, totally respectable. Um but that's also why you see this this push and pull and like that's kind of the other thing behind the scenes of