Rombach describes his philosophy behind partnering with Martin Scorsese: AI models are a medium meant to be shaped by the artist's vision, not a tool that dictates how films should be made. ✦ AI generated
Robin Rombach · All-In Podcast · 2026-07-10 · original ↗
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“How close are we? And maybe tell us a little bit about this partnership, the technology being able to make an actual movie.”
These AI models, they are a medium, right? We don't want to set any way of how they are supposed to be used. We don't want to tell anyone — especially not someone like Martin Scorsese — how he is supposed to use these models. He is one of the greatest filmmakers ever.
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47:41that's at least like the view that we have is that um these AI models, they are a medium, right? They we don't want to set like any way of how they are supposed to be used. We don't want to tell anyone especially not someone like Martin Kazi how how is he supposed to use these models? Like he is one of the like greatest filmmakers ever. Uh it was
47:59insane sitting in the same room with him multiple times and actually him seeing like exploring our models like as like one of the like core researchers behind it was like just an insane feeling. Right. And at the same time I'm also like a big fan. Um >> so you sat in a room with Marty Scarces and showed him your tools. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> And what was his reaction? What what did
48:20he key off of? What was the thing that he found most inspiring or interesting? Okay. Um I think it was really this idea of like he has clearly um a a vision in his head of like a scene or a scenery where like maybe a new movie um will be shot and he's trying to explore that and kind of like um we we we basically looked at the scenery of like a village
48:47in Eastern Europe somewhere and he was describing it. we saw some outputs, we iterated on the outputs. Um, and ultimately I think and that's what he said in the end is like the like getting like the mental picture of something out of your head and communicating it in a visual way by making like these images um or the series of images um is something yeah that just makes it like
49:11easier to communicate and con convey like an idea of like what is actually in your head and I think that's like one of the like very interesting and powerful ways to use this technology and I think ultimately >> is to get the inspiration to get the vision out of his head onto an image. >> Yeah. I mean like language ultimately is like a little bit of like a lossy um
49:32communication medium, right? >> Yeah. >> Um it's also interpreted in different ways, but then visual information is so rich. So rich uh like an image or video, there's so much signal in it and it's just like another way of communicating. And I think that's like one of the beautiful things that this technology ultimately enables. And I think like to your question of making like full movies with