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The Future of Voice AI: Agents, Dubbing, and Real-Time Translation with ElevenLabs Co-Founder Mati Staniszewski

Imagine learning chess from a grand master, or negotiating tactics from an expert FBI hostage negotiator. ElevenLabs’ voice AI technology is making that unlock possible. Sarah Guo sits down with Mati Staniszewski, co-founder of ElevenLabs, to explore how the three-year old company is transforming how humans interact with technology through voice. Mati talks about the technical challenges of building foundational audio models, the strategic thinking between conducting research and deploying produ ✦ AI generated

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Context

Voice AI is not only about translating words but preserving the original speaker's voice, emotions, and intonation across languages.

The original vision for ElevenLabs was to move beyond flat, single-narrator dubbing by enabling the original speaker's voice and emotional delivery to carry across languages.

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Mati Staniszewski: And the big thing was like, instead of having it just translated, could you have the original voice, original emotions, original intonation carried across? So like, imagine having this podcast, but say people could switch it over to Spanish and they still hear Sarah, they still hear Mati and the same voice, the same delivery, which is kind of exactly what we did with Lex back when he interviewed Narendra Modi and you could kind of immerse yourself in that story a lot better. So that was the original kind of insight.

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Claim

Voice is the most natural interface for interacting with technology, yet most human-computer interaction still relies on keyboards and screens.

Mati argues that speech is humanity's original and most natural communication mode, and that current keyboard-and-screen interfaces are fundamentally broken by comparison.

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Mati Staniszewski: Then a lot of the technology wasn't possible for you to be able to recreate a specific voice or be able to create that in that high quality way. And then of course, as we dived into further and shifted away from the static piece, the whole interactive piece is still crazy in the way it functions where most of us... seen this technological evolution over the last decades, but you still will spend most of your time on the keyboard, you will look at the screen, and that interface feels broken. It should be where you can communicate with the devices through speech, for the most natural interface there is, one that kind of started when the humanity started, and we realized we want to solve that.

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Fact

The models that existed for speech just produced robotic, unusable output, so we had to create new research from scratch.

ElevenLabs initially tried to use existing speech models but found them too robotic, which forced the co-founders to build new foundational audio models from scratch.

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Mati Staniszewski: Originally, what we did was try to actually use existing models that were in the market and kind of optimize them for our first use case was actually starting with combination of narration and dubbing and then on the creative side. And we realized pretty quickly that the models that existed just produce such a robotic and not good speech that people didn't want to listen to it. And that's where my co-founder's genius came in, where he was able to assemble the team and do a lot of the research himself to actually create a new version of creating that work.

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Prediction

Dubbing will grow into a massive market because the 'Babel fish' vision of real-time universal communication across languages is coming.

Mati argues that dubbing will expand far beyond movie localization into real-time spoken translation for travel and global communication, breaking down all language barriers.

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Mati Staniszewski: I still think actually this market will be immense because it's not going to be only the static delivery in movies, but if you travel around the world and want to communicate in real time, like the full babblefish idea from Hitchhiker's Guide of the Galaxy, this will happen. It will be like the biggest, like the whole breaking down language barriers, the barriers to communication, to creation, like all of that will break. And that will be like the foundational real-time dabbing concept.

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Mechanism

Customer support voice agents are shifting from reactive (customers calling with a problem) to proactive, becoming the front-end of the entire shopping and discovery experience.

Mati describes how voice agents are evolving beyond handling refunds and tracking into proactive shopping assistants that help customers discover products, navigate sites, and complete purchases end-to-end.

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Mati Staniszewski: I think that second exciting piece within that domain, which is happening is the shift from effectively a reactive customer support, I have a problem, I'm reaching out to customer support, into more of like a proactive part of the experience customer support. So to make it explicit, we work with the biggest e-commerce a shop in India, Michau, where they started working on the customer support side, where I want a refund, I want to see the tracking of the package, to actually having an agent be a front part of the experience. So if you go to the website, you have the widget, you can engage it through voice, and you can ask it, hey, can you help me navigate to item X, item Y, or can you explain to me what's the right thing for me to give up for a gift for this period of time? And then it will actually help you based on your questions, based on what is on the offer, show you those items, navigate to the right parts of the piece, maybe go all the way through the checkout.

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Example

The most exciting frontier for voice agents is education, where a personal tutor in your headphones can teach you anything from chess with a grandmaster to negotiation tactics from an FBI expert.

Mati highlights education as the application he is most excited about, giving examples of interactive chess coaching with grandmasters via Chess.com and a MasterClass where you can practice negotiation directly with FBI hostage negotiator Chris Boss.

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Mati Staniszewski: And then I think the one that I'm most excited about for the world and for the shift is going to be education, where you will just be able to have effectively a personal tutor on your headphone and could actually study something in an amazing way. I'll give you like 2 quick examples. One is we recently worked with Chess.com. I'm a huge fan of chess. I'm a huge chess fan. Okay, great. So you can learn chess, but you can have Hikaru Nakamura or Magnus Carlsen be your teacher of how you deliver that, which is amazing. Or even Botta's sisters, or it's like all the plethora of different players that engaged with that, which I think is great. And then maybe a last one, which is a master class we worked with to shift from, you can of course have the content and go through step by step. But you can also have an interactive experience. And the best example of that was working with Chris Boss, the FBI negotiator, one of the top negotiators, who has a masterclass lesson. But then you can actually call him and have a practice negotiation, which is crazy.

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