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AI Sovereignty Wars, Palantir-Nvidia Deal, SCOTUS Birthright Ruling, Newsom's CA Budget Lie

(0:00) Bestie intros: Happy Fourth of July! (0:21) Palantir-Nvidia open source deal, Alex Karp's CNBC "Crashout" (33:52) Update on the AI jobs debate (50:24) Anthropic's Fable 5 available after export restrictions lifted (59:06) SCOTUS upholds birthright citizenship, striking Trump's EO (1:21:30) Newsom's "balanced budget" and how California's dire fiscal situation could break apart the Union Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/cham ✦ AI generated

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Claim

Enterprises cannot trust frontier model labs (Anthropic, OpenAI) because these labs use their dominant position at the model layer to observe where value is being created on top of their models, then vertically integrate and compete directly with their own customers.

David Sacks argues that Anthropic is following a Microsoft-like playbook: dominate the model layer, observe where customers create value, then vertically integrate into those verticals. He cites Figma's blindsiding by Claude Design, Claude Code's emergence after Cursor's success, and Anthropic's expansion into science, security, legal, and financial verticals as evidence.

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David Sacks: So this was a new vertical app that Anthropic launched to compete in the design category. And Figma's founder said that Anthropic had not been completely honest with them. Anthropic's chief product officer had actually even served on Figma's board and didn't resign until three days before the launch of Claude Design. So obviously, Figma again felt blindsided by this. And you can see the resulting impact on their stock price. Figma's stock has fallen something like 50% this year, while Anthropic's valuation has surged. This is not an isolated example. Anthropic has also launched Claude Science, Claude Security, Claude Legal, Claude Financial, and of course, Claude Code. And every single one of these vertical apps expanded into categories that was previously served by companies building on top of Anthropic's own models. And really, if you want to go back to when Anthropic's revenue explosion began, it was with the launch of Claude Code. And how did they know to launch that product? Because they saw that Cursor was doing extremely well. Cursor was one of their biggest customers. They created the coding assistant first. They created that category. And Anthropic said, oh, like why don't we vertically integrate? So in other words, they're watching where the value is being created on top of their models, then they're moving in directly. And this is a formula that I think is very Microsoft-like. You could say it's very Google-like. They want to dominate the model layer. You could call that the operating system and then use that position, that monopolistic position to capture the most lucrative verticals.

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Data

Enterprises should adopt AI sovereignty by using open-source models on their own hardware with an independent control plane, rather than feeding proprietary data to frontier labs that will eventually compete with them.

Chamath Palihapitiya argues that enterprises face a choice: feed proprietary data to frontier labs that will eventually compete with them, or use open-source models with an independent control plane. He presents data from 8090 showing a 16.4x cost savings using an open-source model wrapped in their software factory compared to Claude alone, and warns that continuing to hand data to frontier labs is now 'derelict and irresponsible.'

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Chamath Palihapitiya: When you start a company, I mean, you guys all know this, you're not starting it for the moment that exists today. You're almost sort of trying to forecast if such and such a set of things happen, then here is the scene that gets created because it takes time to build something and it takes time to get enough reps to know what you're doing and you go to market. This for me was the moment that I thought would arrive, which is the point where everybody wakes up and realizes, wait, hold on a second. Two things are true. The first is that my business is complicated. I want AI to be able to accelerate it, but I want to be able to protect myself in doing so. And then the second is I want the flexibility where there's an independent third-party control plane that I use to get all these benefits so that I don't leak and cede my advantages away. And I think Alex is an incredible smart, brilliant guy, and he completely nailed it. And I think he called out on its face the huge risk of this. So we took our software factory, which is an agnostic third-party control plane, and we just wanted to see. And we ran it on a very typical enterprise task, which is you have an old piece of code, you want to migrate it, and you want to maintain it in a new framework so that it's easier and more flexible. Pretty straightforward task. And so we ran it, and we ran an experiment where we did Claude by itself, then we did us plus Claude. And then we ran it on the best frontier open source model, and then us plus that model. And the data is crazy. So when you use our harness with Claude, it was simultaneously 1.4x cheaper and 1.5x faster than just using M-Propic Opus 48 alone. But if you wrap the open source model with our software factory, it was 16.4x cheaper. Now it was three times slower, but you know, you're talking about a couple of extra hours to save 16.4x. So I think the reality is, could that be optimized even further? Absolutely. But my point is, if you take Sax's points, and then if you take Alex Karp's point and just this actual data, there is a very legitimate question, which is, if you are a reasonable company, why are you not finding an independent way to access this intelligence in a way that doesn't leak your edge away? To do so at this point now is kind of becoming derelict and irresponsible. Back then, you could be experimenting because you didn't know any better. But now when you know all of these data points, to continue to make the same decision, I think is really insanely dumb.

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Prediction

The AI industry is shifting from a large-hub, large-spoke model to a large-hub, medium-hub, distributed-spoke model where enterprises will train and run their own proprietary models on their own hardware.

David Friedberg describes the evolution of the AI deployment model: from large centralized hubs for training and large spokes for inference, to a three-tier model with large hubs for foundational model development, medium hubs for enterprise training of proprietary models using their own data, and distributed spokes for on-premise inference. He argues this shift is driven by enterprises realizing they must build their own models to protect their core differentiating assets.

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David Friedberg: The way I see this evolving is very much in line with what Alex Karp suggested on CNBC. If you go back a couple of years, I think we all assumed there was going to be this large hub, large spoke model for AI model development and deployment, meaning there would be these very large clusters, these large clusters would be ultimately capital advantaged. So those who had the most capital, which is why everyone's raised 10s and hundreds of billions of dollars, would be able to train models. And then there would be these large spokes, these large clusters for deploying those models with inference. So everyone's using the neo clouds and the hyperscalers and whatnot to run models. And then maybe they've got their own proprietary data layer that sits in front of that. But I think what everyone's realizing is they're better off developing their own weights and their own models using either an open source basis or there might be some intermediary business model that evolves, meaning there will end up being several large hubs that do all of the core foundational model development, then smaller hubs, meaning like clusters for training, that enterprises will use to train and develop their own proprietary advantaged models using their own data. And then there will be these much more distributed spokes because I think everyone's also realizing the value of on-prem. By putting a set of servers and building a cluster in your own data center or even in your own enterprise IT closet, you can run a lot of the workflows that you're using AI for your enterprise locally. And so I think the model is shifting where we're going from large hubs, large spokes, to large hubs, medium hubs, and then a distributed spoke model, where there will still be neo-clouds and hyperscalers that are being used for inference, but people will also have their own inference instances that they're going to run for their own enterprise setting.

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Mechanism

The whole AI ecosystem — chip companies, developers, applications, enterprises — has an incentive for a competitive model layer, and the only companies that don't want that are Anthropic and OpenAI, who are pushing for a duopoly through regulatory capture.

David Sacks analyzes the AI stack's three layers (chips, models, applications), noting that Anthropic and OpenAI have an emerging duopoly at the model layer with meaningful revenue. He argues Anthropic is pushing for regulatory capture through a safety agenda that would enshrine this duopoly. The rest of the ecosystem — chip companies, applications, and enterprises — all want a competitive model layer, which is why Nvidia and Palantir are partnering to offer open-source alternatives.

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David Sacks: If you want to think about the AI stack for a minute, at the most basic level, there's three layers to the stack. It's basically the chips, it's the models, and then it's the applications. Right now we have in the middle layer, at the model layer of the stack, you've got two dominant companies. You've got Anthropic and OpenAI. We know that Anthropic's around 60-something billion of ARR. OpenAI is at 40-something billion of ARR. As far as we know, no one else is really generating meaningful revenue at the model layer. So we already have, let's say, an emerging duopoly situation. We have Anthropic pushing for a regulatory capture agenda that would probably enshrine that duopoly situation at a regulatory level because they're pushing for a safety agenda where Dario explicitly says that these other models are not safe, you shouldn't have access to them. So you've kind of got that situation. You've got the market producing duopoly, you've got the government now potentially leaning not to bust up the duopoly, but maybe to enforce it. So that's sort of the emerging situation at the model layer. And so if you're an application at the top of the stack, like Palantir, or you're a chip company at the bottom of the stack, that's the last thing you want. You want a competitive model layer. Why? Because if you're an application, you don't want to be beholden to 1 model provider, right? You want to have a choice. And if you're an enterprise, you want to have a choice because you don't want to have to give up all of your proprietary knowledge. And if you're a chip company, you don't want a monopsony buyer situation. So I think really the whole ecosystem in a way, the chip companies, developers, applications, enterprises, everybody has an incentive for a competitive layer of the stack at the model layer. And really the only companies who don't are Anthropic and OpenAI, because obviously they want to dominate, they want to be a duopoly.

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Prediction

Enterprises must eventually fork and build their own LLMs running on-premise on local hardware, and the future is a server per employee with a personal language model that never leaks data.

Chamath Palihapitiya and Jason Calacanis argue that the end state for enterprises is building their own custom LLMs on local hardware. Chamath predicts a future where every employee has a Mac Studio or equivalent with massive RAM as a local compute server, running a personal language model that never leaks data. Jason Calacanis notes that companies like Abacus (goabacus.co) are already offering to build custom models for HIPAA clients, and warns founders not to partner with platform companies that will eventually 'slit your throat.'

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Chamath Palihapitiya: This is what I've been saying with, when I was going on my Open Claw, which now is like Hermes and some other products. Everybody in your organization is going to have a Mac Studio or a Dell with a massive amount of RAM, and you're going to spend $10, $20,000 per employee on local compute so that they can token max to a retard maxing level. Who cares what they do on their local computer? Who cares? Let them rip. And then you're going to give them a laptop that connects to it, and it syncs so you can control it. It's literally going to be a server per individual in your company. That's the way to model this in your brain. Everybody has their own language model that they're crafting 100% of the time as they work. And it's all local, so you don't have data leaks. Never trust anybody because there's too much at stake. You cannot risk your entire business. You might as well be part of the vanguard and start investing here. You're going to slow down to speed up is what's going to happen. Whether you're using 8090, Abacus, or any of these other solutions or rolling your own, you must have AI sovereignty, you must have intelligent sovereignty, or you're just giving your business over to your company's competitors.

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Claim

The job loss narrative around AI is a scam — the media and politicians pushing it will never admit they were wrong, but the data shows AI is creating far more jobs than it destroys, with displacement rather than loss.

David Friedberg argues that the media and politicians pushing the AI job loss narrative will never reverse course because admitting error destroys their credibility. He claims the reality is that AI is 'clunky,' takes time to deliver value, and will create far more jobs than it destroys through displacement — not net loss. The panel then debates whether any job categories have actually been eliminated, with Friedberg citing customer support and data entry as examples, while Jason Calacanis disputes that there is present-tense data supporting job displacement.

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David Friedberg: I think one of the things that this reveals quite clearly is that there is no buttered, slippery slide to job loss. I think everyone is realizing that, you know, I was wondering where you were going with that buttering it up. So is Truman. But I think, the idea that everyone had in their head two years ago, the narrative that was formed and everyone clutched onto, and by the way, you will not see the media reverse on this narrative. I've realized the importance here, if you're a reporter or you're a journalist and you come up with some story that says something that's happening or is going to happen or has happened or is about the future, you destroy your own credibility if the narrative shifts, you cannot ever let go of the narrative. And I think this is one of the things that we can kind of acknowledge is going on with this job loss narrative problem, is that even as all the data comes out, as all of the reconfiguring of how enterprises are using AI, as it's revealing to all of them that they're actually not just going to cut costs, but they're going to grow revenue, and it's going to be a kind of clunky way of getting there, and it's not going to happen overnight. It's not the slippery slope to job loss, to nihilism. Everyone's going to kind of wake up and be like, wait, this reality that we all thought we were living in is not really the reality that we are living in. We're living in a reality where AI is clunky. It takes some putting together. It's a little more complicated than we thought. It's definitely going to deliver value, but it's not about just turning off all the jobs and letting the genius AI solve all my enterprise problems and scale me into infinity without humans. And I think that that's a big kind of narrative shift. And you will not see the media accept that their narrative is wrong. Because as soon as they have to acknowledge that they were wrong in what they were saying about job loss and all the other senators and people that are proclaiming job loss, job loss, job loss. By the way, the reason they're making that proclamation is so that they can step in and control AI and they can drive their systems of socialism, which is what they're all looking to deploy. But if they had to come in and say, look, the data doesn't map to the narrative, their credibility is done. So they'll double down on it and they'll double down on it. And I'm telling everyone that's listening, look at the data. There is no job loss with AI. It is an absolute scam to tell the world that AI is taking away jobs and destroying jobs and the world is shifting. It is clunky. It is valuable. It is going to take some time and it is going to create far more jobs than it is destroying.

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