There are only 20 to 30 people in California who truly understand how to build world-class AI models, making top-tier AI talent extraordinarily scarce and expensive.

30:24in place to do that right and the amount of folks that really understand the right kind of like recipes that transformers do well in in you know arounde or whatever you're going to look at I think is really hard to find it's actually really hard to find the actual folks that know what they're doing. I think there's probably my rough calculus now is probably like a rough back of the

30:40envelope is probably like 20 to 30 people in California know how to build really good AI models. >> Wait, so but is that trickling down? So you said that there was a senior guy, but like are even some of the less than senior, the 20somes, the young 30omes, are they still getting eight figures a year? >> No, the like the junior guys like the guys in like their 20s and like the like

31:01late 20s or something are getting like they're making like a few million total. So they're making like 200 250 in base. They're making like another million or whatever like in in a year in like our shoes every year. And so they're going to pay like a million to like you know like 750 to like 2 million or so range per year. >> And that's uh that's been driven up by

31:22Meta and but then all the other labs have have like have like followed comp. >> When I asked you what do you think of that you said I like it. Were you being sarcastic or you're you're saying no actually that is smart given how hard it is to get this talent. I think it was really smart and I would have done the same thing if I was I was I was Mark. I