The team became genuinely addicted to an unreleased frontier model with preview-only access, and when the preview period ended and access was cut off, the team mourned the loss and questioned the point of working, complete with AI-generated funeral images.

25:05token hungry, that's because it's changed the way that you're >> is addicted to this thing, yeah. And and I want to preface this by saying like, you know, for people that aren't aware, we're a very conservative team. We've like for years been pretty conservative about coding with AI. We're like very much not the AI psychosis people. We've been pretty measured about how we use AI and we what

25:25we how we communicate its capabilities. Um but I will say uh our team is is addicted to this this new generation of models. We actually just lost access cuz the preview period ended. And for several days all anyone would talk about is we're all like mourning the loss of this thing and people are like, "What's the point of working anymore?" Lots of AI generated [laughter] funeral images like just uh

25:49it's it's been tough. >> Oh man. >> So so I'm not even going to say like it's it's cuz of the new models are necessarily smarter. Like it's not like they're like, "Oh, so there's only like so much smarter or they're like they're kind of replace a whole human." It's not that. I think there's just like there's just these like fine-tuning things you can do around the usability of the model where

26:07they can kind of I think they they kind of found a perfect zone where they like you can really trust them now. They kind of listen to what you're saying. They kind of pick up on stuff that you miss. Um >> Yeah. >> So it's not like it's like a human we're talking to all of a sudden. It's just a much better partner and I think for our

26:21team, you can see that in the numbers. >> What about models that are not from the big Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, you know, like I know that you guys have like open code go and and whatnot. Like are those getting better? Where are we at with those? >> Yeah, so now that we had lost access to this preview these preview models, we're now dropping back to like the 5.5.

26:46I think half our team dropped back to 5.5, but the other half are using GLM 5.2, which you've probably seen everyone talking about. So, I am using that. Personally, I think it is very comparable to 5.5. Again, after having used some of these newer ones, the old ones all kind of feel roughly the same, so I'm kind of fine using anything, but they're definitely getting better. The fact that 5.2 to me can

27:10replace 5.5 is uh So, our GLM 5.2 can replace GPT 5.5. Um Yeah, I mean, they're they're they're getting better and they're just going to keep getting better and I personally feel like that gap is closing more and more. I think the frontier models will always have some advantage just cuz they It's one of those things where whoever starts first kind of always stays ahead cuz there's like some compounding