The real competitive advantage from AI comes from redesigning entire companies around the technology, not superficial adoption—comparing it to how Ford redesigned factories for electricity rather than just swapping engines.

31:26disrupting markets. Like you want to talk a little bit about that? >> Yes, um there's this concept in economics about creative destruction from from from Joseph Schumpeter. And what it says is that the the the way innovation hits the economy isn't by companies adopting the the the new technology, but by companies remaining the way they they were and incumbents with the new technology destroying the old companies. So, this destroys

31:57value in the short term in the economy, but in the long term it's better for everyone because of these new more efficient, more effective uh companies will provide better products and services for the for the economy as a whole. And this has happened in the past like industrial revolutions and this has always happened. And this is a great opportunity for entrepreneurs and and people today because it's hard to adopt

32:22AI deeply. Uh it's really hard for a CEO today, especially of a large company or public company, to go and say, "Hey, like I'm betting everything on AI. Uh the company has to look this way. I'll like destroy and rebuild everything I've been building for the past 40 years to become an AI native company. Like how many CEOs will will will do that in a company at scale? So, while they they

32:50adopt new companies can be formed that are built around the the the strengths of of AI and and take over and and and and bring new products and services to to to the masses. And and this has happened before. Like this happened with electricity. This is the story I always tell tell my team. The the the technologies for Ford's production line were developed in 1879 and 1881. Edison started commercializing

33:21electricity in in New York and then London and he invented a dynamo that was extremely efficient. So, you could have built Ford's factory 40 years before Ford. The technology was there. Everything was there. But the way people adopted electricity and and Ford's dynamo was okay. I'm going to leave my factory like four floors, shafts, and belts. I just change my coal engine for an electric engine. And this

33:49will bring you benefits. Yes, but like 6% efficiency. What needed to be done was like to destroy that factory, build it in a flat surface, not in the center of New York, but in Connecticut or New Jersey. And redesign your coal factory around small dynamos and and electricity. And then you get like the 3x uh improvement in productivity that that like powered the US during the 20th century. And the

34:20same happened again with a computer. And the same is happening again today. People want to adopt it, but they're not willing to redesign the whole company. And they just adopt it superficially. And in the end that'll give you a 6% or a 10% improvement, not a 10x improvement. And it's like the innovator's dilemma at an industrial uh scale again. >> I think you've just made an amazing case

34:47for any future founders out there that it's time to build. And and maybe a great a great place to to end this, you know, you've built and scaled your own company, you've now turned Kavak fully agentic. Like, what advice do you have to future founders or first-time founders that might be listening? >> So, this is the most exciting time in human history. I I believe that. Like