The only path to true embodied intelligence is to build a robot so physically similar to a human that it can be pre-trained on all internet video data, which is orders of magnitude larger than any robotics-specific data set.

24:32you're not able to get the tele operation to be good enough to fully utilize the hardware. >> Uh so the fidelity of the hand is greater than a teller operator is able to leverage. >> Yes. Right. The teleoperator will not feel the same as the robot is feeling for example. Right. then you need to build full haptic systems and they're going to slow you down and be slow and

24:47clunky and like so we're increasingly seeing that gathering data with humans just wearing the sensors of the robot in as transparent a manner as possible. So like they should not disturb what you are doing right that's the most useful data to solve kind of baseline dexterity on the robot but even more importantly the big bet that we made which is this decade long bet in 1x is if you get the

25:11robot to be similar enough to a human then you can train on all of the available video data out there of humans. >> Yes. >> And we're starting to see some very good proof that this is actually working incredibly well. And that's the reason we started the WX World Model Lab because we now finally have the scaling loss on that. And we're seeing that this >> take us inside that take us inside the

25:29lab. You are you having people in factories wear glasses, wear your hands, and do their tasks over and over again? Are you working with the micro ones of the world to go do you know real world stuff and outsourcing like unique proprietary data that you can have that other companies don't? How does the world model get built at scale? >> So so so first of all yes we do that and

25:53if you but that's not the main point. So I think ultimately it's very simple right the model is going to be as good as the data. >> Yeah. And if you think about the data pyramid then on the top you have like tele operation data very high quality small fine tuned data set where actually what we do is you will have the operator try to do the task very well and very

26:17fast and they will often fail and then just try again and then we pick the good samples where they did the task as good as a human would right >> you don't need a lot of that data it's just to align your model then you have the data which is what you're talking about with like put the sensors on the human go and gather data. >> Yeah,

26:33>> you have more of that and it's very close to the robot but it's not the robot. The telea is the robot. This is not the robot but it's close. >> Then you have egocentric video from humans point of view. So that is further away from the robot but it's still quite close because the robot hands is the same as human hands and like it looks the same and so it's quite close.

26:54>> And then you have general video data. >> Yes. >> Of the world. or the world in general and of people, right? And because Neo is so similar to a human, we can actually utilize all of that data. Now, the bottom layer in the pyramid, which is this video data, general video data is absolutely ludicrously immense compared to anything else. >> It's YouTube, it's everything. So if you