The fundamental divide in the AI debate is between those who believe AI technology is too dangerous to distribute versus those who believe it's too dangerous to centralize, with history consistently favoring distribution and decentralization.

33:47I think anthropic and people in the effect of altruism movement believe that this technology is too dangerous to distribute. >> And what Mark Zuckerberg and I think Elon and Jensen believe is that this technology is too dangerous to centralize. and history has spoken and when given the choice it is always better to distribute and decentralize there is there's really no counter example that I can think of and just

34:19forget as an American but as a human I want an AI that looks out for me looks out for me >> the individual >> be the individual sovereign individual was aver individual. Yes. >> Yeah. My conception of what's good for America. I do not want Dario Amod or Anthropic >> deciding what's in my best interests. >> I I just fundamentally don't want that. >> You don't trust AI Jesus.

34:46>> I don't I mean I AI Jesus seems like he seems like a he seems like a great guy, you know. Although it is funny, somebody said he was cursed with resting smiling face and it is a little >> to listen to him talk about this terrible vision for humanity while he's smiling happily. It's hilarious. >> He's literally got that grin on while he explains to you the Terminator scenario

35:10and that only he can save us and that even he doesn't know that like there's a 20% chance that he might not be able to save us all. Gavin, I love that framing about it being too dangerous to centralize. And I think one other closely analogous point is what you think about competition. So I think that the EA's think that competition will create a race to the bottom and will