People with private security are often more opposed to surveillance technologies like Flock, while those in less affluent areas who lack such protections are more supportive because they don't feel safe.

41:03And man, my brother was a cop during the stop, ask, and frisk era in New York. >> The statistics during stop, frisk, and ask, which was a violation of the fourth amendment, >> like you're stopping people based on like they're hanging out. So, it definitely was a little step too far. But New York in the 70s and 80s was dangerous as hell. Like there were a lot

41:25of guns on the street. My brother took a couple of guns off the street. Cops were in a really tough situation. The people in the poorest communities were the most in favor of stop ask and frisk. They always leave out the ask because they're like, "Oh, we're just going to stop you and frisk you." No, they would stop and say, "Hey, what are you up to?" And uh,

41:42"Hey, you're hanging out in the corner. What's going on?" And you know, they just try to get a read on people, which by the way, if you ever go to Israel or you go to some countries, they ask you 20 questions. Why are you here? Hey, uh, you know, where you staying? Like, they want to get a read on you, whether you're going into Israel or Tokyo. They

41:58might ask you a couple personal questions, which would be offensive to Americans. But the correlation was really people who experience crime are in favor of it. People who live in Pack Heights, they don't need to worry about this, man. something goes down in Pack Heights, there's 20 cops and 50 private security guards, you know, rallying around one homeless person, one vagrant, you know, one person who's in a car that

42:23doesn't look like it should belong there. It's like they're going to get swarmed in Pack Heights. >> Yep. No, I mean, you hit the nail on the head and it's not spoken about as much, but it's worth looking at who is so against what we do and who is so for it. And it's typically people who don't have any other way to protect themselves, who need this, right? who want this. And

42:43and for those who have a gate and have a guard and have cameras and have a security system and they have Jaime's incredible doorbell camera, right, and they have all these products and these services, they're like, "Why does why does anyone need to feel any safer?" It's like, "Because most people don't have any of this stuff and they don't feel safe when they go to bed." And

43:00yeah, it's it's it's quite telling. >> I'm rooting for you to get everything right and to continue making communities safer. I'm also rooting for communities to make their own decision. 100%. >> I think that is the key part of this that people need to embrace as well. If you have a if you've chosen to live in a gated community, you have made that choice for security in all likelihood.

43:25And if poor people or people who don't get to live in a gated community and you were to ask, you know, people with a family, hey, would you like to live in a gated community or would you like to live with not in a gated community? Like a hundred out of a hundred people. I I mean maybe it's 95. I think if you offered like the average Joe or Jane,