Kids' beepers — a clip-on device that works like old pagers so kids can buzz each other and parents can reach them — combined with the rising 'free-range kids' countertrend toward more independence but still reachable, is a genuinely good, buildable business idea.

26:46like you have to argue, you know, it's not your real opinion. They just assign it to you. You're for this or against this topic. That's what this episode is for me. It's like my debate club practice where it's like take any idea and figure out a way to make it sound like half plausible. >> Um, yeah. Until you're like given the worst topic ever. I remember in debate

27:05class they' give me this stuff like capitalism is bad or something like that. And I'm like I'm going to fail. I can't do it. [laughter] >> You start talking, you rip your shirt Hulk Hogan style, then you just come out in favor for it because you just can't do it. >> It's sort of like being a defense attorney. My sister was a defense attorney and she like had to like defend

27:23them. I'm like, "How on earth do you do that? That seems so hard to be able to just like defend someone you know is guilty." >> That's us right now. >> Uh Ari, you seem like you're you're itching to say something. What do you got? >> All right. Have you guys seen this? Go to go to tincan.kids. >> Oh my god, I've heard about this. So tinan. Can you explain this?

27:46>> Everyone is sharing their numbers for their kids. So, this is like a it's a landline, but it works through the Wi-Fi and you can like pre-program numbers in it. Um, >> and this is so awesome. Super super safe to use. >> Physical phone, right? It's like a physical physical phone, old school with like numbers, swirly cord that was always fun to play with while you're on

28:08the phone. >> Look, they feature it right on there. Twirl that cord. Okay, so [laughter] >> speaking my language, but this reminded me of a time a few years ago where I was like, you know what? I'm not I'm going to get rid of my smartphone. And what ended up happening with that was that I was like, "Okay, well now I need a Garmin uh GPS. I need an alarm clock. I

28:30need to get a camera. You have to like unbundle all of these things." So when I'm looking at this, I'm like, "Okay, so these kids can reach each other at home, but how are you going to catch them?" So I was like, "How about beepers for kids?" I love how some entrepreneurs right now are trying to ride the AI wave and Ari's like, I'm going to ride this

28:51tin can wave. [laughter] Not a lot of people surfing this tin can wave right now, but I see the future. Wait, by the way, a little stat on this. So, the so the thing costs like 10 bucks a month as a subscription uh to to use. And they say they've sold hundreds of thousands. They just raised they've raised a total of $15.5 million. I'm looking at >> to to grow the business. Uh you so you

29:13buy the phone for 100 bucks and then it's 10 bucks a month to be able to call non-tinan phones. So okay, free to call other tin cans, 10 bucks a month to be able to call normal people's phones. >> The school in Kansas delivered free tin cans to 200 plus families and students. Uh it's a it's like kind of riding the trend of getting kids off of smartphones