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Chrome is a gift to the open web and splitting it up via antitrust action would be a disaster — the real monopoly problems are elsewhere, like mobile app store toll booths.

DHH argues that while he is sympathetic to antitrust fights in tech, targeting Chrome is misguided: Chrome won on merit, the open web benefits from a trillion-dollar champion, and real monopoly problems like mobile app store toll booths should be the priority instead. ✦ AI generated

David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH) · Lex Fridman · 2025-07-12 · original ↗

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I have to ask you about the recent stuff with the DOJ trying to split up Chrome and Google. Do you think this is a good idea?

It's a disaster. And I say that as someone who's been very sympathetic to the antitrust fight, because I do think we have antitrust problems in technology. But the one place where we don't have them, by and large, is with browsers, is with the tools we use to access the open web. ... I also think that the open web needs this trillion dollar champion, or at least benefits from it. ... Of all the things that are wrong with monopoly formation in technology, Chrome is the last thing. And this is why I get so frustrated sometimes about the anti or the monopoly fight, that there are real problems and we should be focusing on the premier problems first, like the toll booths on our mobile phones. They're a far bigger problem. It's not the open web. It's not the tools that we use to access the open web. ... Chrome won on merits. I begrudgingly have switched to Chrome on that realization alone. As a web developer, I just prefer it. I like Firefox in many ways. I like the ethos of it, but Chrome is a better browser than Firefox, full stop.

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